SOTD #645: sandhana punnagai from naadOdi raja

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SOTD #645: sandhana punnagai from naadOdi raja

Postby bb » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:12 pm

Song of the Day: sandhana punnagai from naadOdi raja.

http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/645.html

- Saravanan writes:

‘santhana punnagai sindhiya kannigai’ from naadOdi raja.

Sung by SPB & S.Janaki
Lyrics by Vairamuthu
Music by Shankar-Ganesh


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naadOdi raja (1982/ Balaji Creative Enterprises) starred Rajiv, Aruna, Satyaraj, VA Nirmala, Silk Smitha, Sangili Murugan, YGM, Y.Vijaya and others. It was produced by Geetha Srinivasan and directed by S.M.Umar.

I have a hazy recollection of the pedestrian proceedings, having watched the film on video. (It was in those years of the 80s, when 2-3 video libraries opened in every lane, with each one doing brisk business!) The film, as I recall, was an unabashed MGR hosanna. Rajeev played a worthless vagrant, whose conscience takes the form of MGR and reforms him :)

The other songs are ‘ek ladki roop sundari, dEkhnE waalOn dEkhO’, a nattily tuned VJ solo for Silk; ‘enga veettu piLLai neethanayya’, a medley of MGR film names by SPB.


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‘If music and sweet poetry agree,
As they must needs, the sister and the brother,
Then must the love be great ’twixt thee and me,
Because thou lov’st the one, and I the other!’

These lines of Shakespeare come to mind while reading Vairamuthu’s eloquent tribute to Shankar-Ganesh titled ‘irattai naayanangaL’. He reserves warm words for their humility and sincerity, and expresses amazement at their speed and ability to come up with 4-5 tunes for a written verse. He speaks of the intelligent introvert that Shankar was, and the complementing contrast that was Ganesh. He has fond memories of working with the duo:

‘paalavanachchOlai’-kku paatezhudha pOnappOdhu andha anbu mugangaL aRimugamaayina. Cinema gunangaL illadha anbu sagOdharargaL avargaL.eppOdhum menmaiyaai iruppadhil thiru shankar oru pullankuzhal maathiri. eppOdhum kalakalappaai iruppathil thiru ganesh oru mirudhangam maathiri. poovil vaNdu thEnedukkum pOthu poovO, vaNdO kaLaithu pOvathillai allava? appadi, avargaLodu sErndhu paniyaatRum pOthu avargaLO kavignargaLO kaLaithu pOvathillai.

When we think of Vairamuthu’s early years, it is inevitable that IR and VM’s captivating collaborations with IR overwhelm our reminiscences. Yet there are some ethereal instances where VM and S-G worked together to wondrous effect. The SOTD is surely one of those treasured moments, to be savoured, cherished and saluted.

Hark at the veeNai, violin and then the flute usher in the bewitchment; the three work in tandem all through the song to keep the enchantment intact. The first interlude, fastidiously filigreed with exquisite daintiness, is a revelation, offering a rare glimpse of the imaginative vistas S-G were capable of beckoning. The charaNam does draw traces of similarity in structure with that of ‘naan iravil ezhuthum’, another fine S-G number; the warp and weft is dexterously different though.

True, the lyrics bear the cross of archetypal VM clichés like ‘dhaavaNi mEgam’, ‘vErvai aaRaanathu’ and ‘thEnil aaradhanai’. Nonetheless the lines perch so prettily onto the tune and the sandham sits so snugly amidst the strings, that the sheer beauty of the teamwork eclipses these trivial objections.

And to add luster to the luminescence, S-G summon SPB and SJ. How reassuring it must have been to have at hand a singer like SPB! With absolute authority, the man makes the song his own in no time. He flirts and flatters, taunts and teases, pleads and pacifies, chides and chuckles, woos…and wins! And even while contending herself with merely playing along, the remarkable SJ is in her expressive elements. I love the ‘paadu’ that marks the charaNam endings… SJ and SPB take playful turns in commanding each other to continue with the pallavi!

So listen on to this forgotten song…..a moment of infinite allure when Chinthamani Ramaswami Shankararaman and Chinnasami Ganesh castaway their commonplace baton, and wave a magic wand to conjure a marvel….


- Other S-G songs in SOTD: http://www.dhool.com/search/sotdsearch. ... kar-Ganesh
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Postby paventhan » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:57 am

Thanks for posting an excellent song
and it was nice reading the writeup. Thanks saravanan.

One more song come to my mind from the
SG-VM combination.

"Irendu kannam sandhana kinnam thottukolla asaigal tholum"

from Sivappu malli (I hope it is vairamuthu ?!!).

Does any member in Dhool.com have access to the above song ?
it would be great to see as SOTD.
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Postby Ramesh.P » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:22 am

Hi
Nice duet. one more file from the same combination. AVM production "AMMA.
beautiful solo from PS.(poomugam sivakka) and SPB&SJ duet.
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Postby Anniyan » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:33 am

Hats off to you Saravanan! What a sweet song you have reminded us! The song was a terrific hit in early eighties. Though inspired by IR's Panivizhum malarvanam the SOTD has the stamp of S-G sure. Many number of songs like Senthamizh thaen kadal chithira poomadal poomagaL udalo (pl check the words) from Jeppiyaar's Maarupatta KonangaL (1983) are worth mentioning. Certainly the duo cast a spell on the listeners particularly during eighties. Your diction is splendid Saravanan-you could elevate even an ordinary song to great heights through your writing. Keep it up!
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Postby rajeshkrv » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:33 am

a beautiful song ..

SG did some wonderful compostions during late 70's and 80's

thanks sara for this treat
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Postby Murali Venkatraman » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:03 am

I did not know this song was by S-G. It is after years that I am hearing this song. People familiar with Mallu film music may note that this song reminds us of the much newer song "kanaka nilaavE thuyiluNaroo" from the movie "kauravar". The portion " pa;pama gamagam pa;pama gamagam papSnipa ma,ga,; " is the same as the pallavi of SOTD.

The mrudangam for some strange reason reminds me of Indira logaththu sundari.

Good SOTD.
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Postby OISG » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:40 pm

What a song! In what appears to be a classic marriage between Andhi Mazhai pozhgiradhu and Pani vizhum malarvanam S-G has brought nice innovations. Captivating Mridnagam rhythm for the pallavi ( Repeated the same pattern in ChithiramE un vizhigaL from Nenjil ThuNivirundhal)

SPB and SJ ...It is like a Edberg-Jarryd combination -a backhand slice here,a drop there, aces and winners at regular intervels one attempting improvisations and the other acting as a steadying force. Absolutely wonderful.Great choice.

VM has as usual sweated out for the lyrics.vErvai aaRanadhu! Generously peppering the song with his staple Manmadha,dhawani stuff. But as Saravanan points out the lyrics perfectly fit the tune.

S-G deliberatly stayed away from sustaining class I presume.That would have damaged their forte ...economy!

Saravanan follow this one with "kadhal oru ragam" by MV-SJ. You have successfully made people look at the positive and brighter side of S-G;why not do this for Veda too?
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Postby Senty » Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:35 am

sara,
awesome.yet another sweet song, which i might have heard in one of those forgotten childhood days.loved it.

MS,
yes this one reminds of kannaga nilavey.
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Postby Anniyan » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:34 pm

Saravanan
Talking about rettai nayanangaL I am reminded of two beautiful songs rendered by P Bhanumathy from the film KadavuL thandha selvam. Only Radio Ceylon repeatedly used it in mid seventies. Any idea about the movie? When talking to good friend doyen Film News Anandan on this film he said the film was not even censored. The songs are : 1 Unnodu en nenjamey ondraai oonjalaadudhadaa so beautifully rendered by Bhanumathy. 2 Alli magaL mella vandhaaL malligai mullai soodi nindraaL in raag Yaman is spell-binding. Have you heard the songs? I have been searching for these songs frantically for quite some time but to no avail. I also heard through a friend that one T R Mahalingam song is also there in the film. Pl discuss.
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Postby Saravanan » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:12 am

Many thanks for your generous responses :)

Paaventhan, yes 'rendu kannam' is a S-G/VM collaboration. Will try to bring it to SOTD.

Anniyan, thank you for your kind words of encouragement. And thanks again for reminding me of that forgotten gem ' senthamizh then kadal' (Lyrics: Muthulingam)

I am sorry I have't heard the songs of kadavul thandha selvam. From what you have written, they seem to be absolute treasures! I'll search for them in my next visit to India.

Btw, Bhanumathi sang some stunners in S-G's music in pathu maadha bandham. Remember 'ramanukku mannan mudi' , 'irandu thaaikku oru magal' and even 'let me sigh, let me cry when I'm blue' ?
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Postby Anniyan » Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:59 pm

Thanks Saravanan! Incidentally this Senthamizh thaen kadal is also inspired from Maan kandaen maan kandein of Raajarishi.

KadavuL thandha selvam songs are really treasures. We have to search for them. Bhanumathy has got an affinity for S_G for Shankar is the brother of CRS who was Bhanumathy's favourite during his time. The greatness of S_G can be further corroborated when one observes that stalwarts like Balamurali (how amazing is his Raamanum neeye krishnanum neeye from UyandhavargaL), Madurai Somu (many songs in Sashti Viradham), Bangalore Ramani ammaL (Modhagamum adhirasamum vaikkindrom naangaL moondru thamizh vaendum endru Ganapathiyai kaetkindrom from Velum Mayilum Thunai), Radha Jayalakshmi (Akhilamellam vilangum amman aruL from Amman aruL), TRM (KaduvaL thandha selvam) had readily agreed to sing under their baton but all these only for the same reason as Bhanumathy discussed above is a million dollar question.

Another very interesting observation: Just look at the following songs:
1.Endhan Deviyin paadal enna (PonmagaL vandhaaL)
2.Deviyin thirumugam (Vellikkizhamai Viradham)
3. Devi vandha naeram (Vandichakkaram)
4.Devi koondhalo brindhavanam (En aasai unnodudhaan)
5. Devi en devi needhaane (Vaeli)
6. Devi neeye undhan thirukkovil (?)

Why this Devi fixation for S_G? Any sentiment? Any other songs with Devi and S _G.?
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Postby Udhaya » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:27 pm

Saravanan,
Nee Vaazhga un thondu thodarga. Finally got a chance to listen to this forgotten beauty. OISG nailed it when he coined this as an andhi mazhai-pani vizhum alloy. Still I couldn't imagine combining these two songs before hearing this.
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Postby Star(*) » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:24 pm

Yippeeeeee!!!! It's deja vu time again just like for Senty :lol: :lol:
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Postby rajesh » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:41 am

Rendu kannam sandhana kinnam is a wonderful song which would
make me to murmur it...quite often.. :x

Wish to have this as SOTD.
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Postby Ratty » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:17 pm

Were the music directors shankar and ganesh brothers ?

the "devi" question really made me think. why this "devi" fixation ?
knowing how sentimental our cine industry is, the possible explaination would be since one devi song became a hit they started using devi in many. hehe. anybody have a better expaination ? :))
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Postby Ratty » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:20 pm

"Rendu kannam sandhana kinnam" was one of those days favourites. I must have listened to infinite times . Thanks for bringing to my mind all those memories. you guys have done it. i am gonna be humming this song today throughout.
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Postby Anniyan » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:40 pm

Ratty,

Shankar and Ganesh are not brothers but friends. Shankar is the brother of ace MD C R Subburaman and Shankar is actually C R Shankararaman.
Ganesh is the son-in-law of producer G N Velumani.Whereas Shankar was solely responsible for many of the wonderful tunes they gave Ganesh was in charge of orchestra and did all the PRO work. Shankar is a very shy unassuming person but Ganesh is not so. It is very unfortunate that Shankar should die at this young age.
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Postby Anniyan » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:59 am

Sara, this sandhana punnagai reminds me of another beautiful song though not in the same tune but a class. SPB's Thudikkum karangaL number Sandhanam poosa manjaL nilaavum vandhanam endru nenjil ulaavum naeram....vennilavu thaalaatta...what a wonderful melody! Can you dwell upon it one day?
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Postby Saravanan » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:26 am

Anniyan, believe it or not: I too was thinking of this song for SOTD!! But decided against it as we had this SPB-SJ duet just now. Will bring it sometime soon :)

For this week, I thought it would be good to revisit the 50s and listen to a rare number. ( Just for a change, though there is no use hiding my partiality for the 70s and early 80s :wink: )
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Postby mythila » Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:48 am

IR set the "Naattai" ball rolling with "pani vizhum", which SG quickly grabbed for this one. MDs have resurrected it again after the hit of "chennai senthamizh" and today we have spate of "Naattai" flavours like "noodhana" , "iyengar veettu azhage" and so on.
"chandhanam poosa" (MD:SPB) was probably inspired from "andhi mazhai"
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Postby Kupps » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:11 pm

i remember a discussion on raaga of "pani vizhum malar vanam" in ROS thread of erstwhile TFMPage. Some took the side of naattai and some stood for chalanaattai. I dont know to which of these two this song falls.
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Postby Anniyan » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:46 am

Kupps,
Both chalanattai and nattai are same. The prefix 'chala' is meant only to identify the number of this melakartha raga among the 72 melakarthas as designed by a musicologist called Venkatamakhi.
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Postby meenaag » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:11 pm

This was an amazing song that you have posted but before talking all big details about it you should confirm whether the details you have are right. This song was not sung by SPB. It was sung by my cousin ramesh who also sang the song from radhe en radhe from japanil kalyanraman. SO, do confirl what you are saying before posting it. :? javascript:emoticon(':roll:')
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Postby OISG » Tue May 01, 2007 4:06 am

During IR's hey days Ramesh did have a good "track"record ...I mean he had sung many tracks and the fianl versions came out in SPB's voice.May be you might have listened to the track sung by your cousin.

un nenja thottu sollu en raasa idhu Balu illaya?
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Postby krish_lee » Wed May 06, 2009 3:36 am

Hai meenaag... this song "sandhana punnagai" from "naadodi raja" film by spb and s.janaki only. not by ramesh but song from radhe en radhe from japanil kalyanraman is by ramesh. u can check with ur cousin :) and give me his feedback too. anyway oru singeroda relationoda pesara sandharpam kidaichathu periya vishayam. :D
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Postby shri » Wed May 06, 2009 6:53 am

நானும் இதை படிச்சிட்டு 1000 முறை அந்த பாட்ட கேட்டுட்டு ஃப்ரெண்ட்ஸ் கிட்டே லைட்ஆ ரமேஷ்னு டிஸ்கஸ் பண்ண ஆரமிச்சதுல எல்லாரும் செருப்பால அடிக்காத குறைதான். எப்டி பாத்தாலும் அது SPBதான்னு நான் ஒரு முடிவுக்கு வந்துட்டேன். யாராச்சும் சீக்ரம் தீர்ப்ப சொல்லுங்கப்பா.
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Postby Lokesh » Sat May 09, 2009 4:46 am

Perhaps being the only one here to have respect for the good songs of Shankar-Ganesh, how could I miss it??

Good one Sara.
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Postby naarayanan » Sat May 09, 2009 5:54 am

anniyan, chalanattai is a sampurna melakartha whereas naatai is
sampurna/ audava raga i think.

srgmpdns / snpmrs.

of course nattai has 6 accepted a/a. but definitely the avarohanam does not have ga in any of these accepted a/a.
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Postby suryahb4u » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 pm

meenaag wrote:This was an amazing song that you have posted but before talking all big details about it you should confirm whether the details you have are right. This song was not sung by SPB. It was sung by my cousin ramesh who also sang the song from radhe en radhe from japanil kalyanraman. SO, do confirl what you are saying before posting it. :? javascript:emoticon(':roll:')
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Hi meengag.... I am very glad to know that u r relative to singer Mr.Ramesh. I am a fan of Mr. Ramesh. And I wish to know which songs are sung by him? Kindly let me know meenga....
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Postby ebbenezer66 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:38 am

Thanks for bringing to my mind all those memories. you guys have done it. i am gonna be humming this song today throughout.

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