SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

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SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

Postby bb » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:17 pm

Song of the Day: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum.

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- Saravanan writes:

Two songs from paattum bharathamum, showcasing the master’s astute skill in harnessing with judicious sagacity the unquestioned talents of two singers- a veteran who was staring defiantly at the beginning of the end of an illustrious career, and a youngster who was climbing rapidly up the ladder of fame and fortune….

Sugruta wanted to listen to it long back, and so we have SPB crooning ‘my song is for you, my love is for you…’, and while posting it, I couldn’t resist adding on my favorite number from the paattum bharathamum album as well.

‘paattum bharathamum’ (1975/Arun Prasad Movies) had music and dance woven into a storyline surcharged with emotion. Much against his wishes, a young business baron Ravishankar is persuaded to be the chief guest in a dance recital. Little does he realize then that his life would never be the same again. For the nimble feet, graceful steps and jingling anklets of the striking young danseuse Lalitha offer him a glimpse of an intriguing new world quite alien to his own. The tycoon falls in love with… the dance…and the dancer. As is the inexorable norm, the romance begins with a row, and our hero even learns and masters dance to prove a point! She relents finally, and he woos and wins her. But he had not reckoned with his wily father who cannot bear the bourgeois becoming a bohemian. The old man contrives circumstances that lead to our hero suspecting her morals. Hurt and humiliated, she goes away, carrying his child in her womb. Realization of his father’s machinations dawns on him rather late, and the years pass by as he waits with penitence and patience for her return… She returns, with their son accompanying her…. Music is in their son’s blood too…. The young man is a pop icon… The awaited rapprochement forms the climax.

Produced and directed by P. Madhavan, the movie starred Sivaji Ganesan in the dual roles of father and son. The pivotal role was played by Jayalalitha and her powerful performance matched that of the thespian. Sivaji’s portrayal of the businessman suffering the pangs of separation from his beloved was marked by his usual stateliness. Least said about the ‘son’ Sivaji, the better though. (How I wish P.Madhavan had chosen Kamal to play the son!) Playing the son’s love interest, Sripriya was cast opposite Sivaji for the first time. Gopikrishna, ‘Major’ Sundararajan, Vijayakumar, R.S.Manohar, M.R.R. Vasu, Sukumari and Manorama formed rest of the dramatis personae. Story and dialogues were by Balamurugan. Editing was by R. Devarajan and Cinematography by P.N. Sundaram. The dances were choreographed by P.S. Gopalakrishnan, Gopikrishna and Salim.

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An impetuous hero who is goaded to mistrust by circumstances, an alluring danseuse as the heroine, and an engrossing story with music as the mainstay- P. Madhavan B.A. (1928-2003) must have thought excitedly that he had chanced upon another ‘thillana mOhanambaaL’ and mounted the movie on a lavish scale. However, though the magazine reviews hailed ‘paattum bharathamum’ as several shades better than the kind of movies that Sivaji was acting in that time, the movie did not fare as well as expected.

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Nevertheless, ‘paattum bharathamum’ has an enviable place in the annals of tfm history, for it is one of the finest albums of MSV in the 70s. A musical subject such as this would have filled the master with joy and he sat with the kaviarasar to extract the best out of the bard. The songs glitter with lyrical and musical magnificence. The album begins with the irresistible ‘mazhaikkaalam varugindRathu thEn malarthOttam therigindRathu’ that opens with MSV’s sonorous recitation ‘thirisoolam saththiyam puliththOlil thaththuvam naagamaNi mandhiram naanmaRaigaL sundaram’. Vani Jairam at her evocative best brings the lines alive with forlorn yearnings. The lilting ‘maanthOraNa veedhiyil mELangaL ragam’ by TMS and P. Suseela is a dainty duet wherein she expresses her surprise that this magnate should knows music! He proves that commerce can marry art in the next song, ‘ sivakami aadavandhaal natarajan enna seivaan, nadamaadi paarkkattumE – endhan udanaadi paarkkattumE’ (TMS & PS again)– a scintillating dance competition that ends with his ‘eye-opening’ triumph. ‘ulagam neeyaadum sOlai mugilgaL thaalaattum maalai’ is another winner- this one by TMS & Vani is as graceful as the movements of the peacock that the lines portray. TMS has another majestic solo, ‘aadhi sakthi vizhipOla vetRi nadamaadugindRa sivanaathanE’.

There are two other songs, of course, and they are the ones that form today’s SOTD.


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What is the worst of woes that wait on age?
What stamps the wrinkle deeper on the brow?
To view each love one blotted from life's page,
And be alone on earth as I am now.


- Lord Byron (Childe Harold)

He has acted in haste and is now repenting at leisure… But his repentance is not going to bring her back. All his attempts to locate her have been futile. So he waits resignedly, for she would surely return some day… Oh, the aching emptiness!

kaRpanaikku mEni thandhu..kaal salangai pOttu vittEn
kaal salangai pOna idam ..kadavuLukkum thOndRavillai…
deivaththin thEreduthu dEviyai thEdu
dEvikku thoodhu solla thendRalE Odu
aavikkuL aavi ananda yEdu,
avaLillai endRaal naan veRum koodu
paavaikku pOttu vaithEn naanoru kOdu
paadi paRandhadhamma iLankuyil pEdu


He dons the anklets again in her memory, and as his ruminative steps resonate on the rostrum of life, the years pass him by… season follows season in unfailing monotony… he knows them not, for he experiences each of them within- he is scorched by the summer of remorse even as memories of the spring of their romance come flooding in. Monsoon laden clouds find hospitality in his grieving eyes, while her smile seems as beguiling and just as fleeting like a drop of dew in a winter morning…

neer vatRi pOnadhendRu, ninaivinil vedippu
nenjathil thOndRuthamma vasanthaththin thudippu
maamazhai mEgam indRu kaNgaLil iruppu
margazhi paniyandRo avaLadhu sirippu


Absence makes the heart fonder, and filled with shame at how he had wronged her, he draws parallels to the virtuous women of the great epics who had suffered similar separation – Seetha and Shakuntala. Like Kamban and Kalidasa who immortalized their tragic heroines in their works, to him she is the epitome of his art. And though age had caught up with his outwardly appearance, his heart remains youthfully athirst in love…. It is not time for the curtains yet… the show must go on…

kambanai koopidungaL seethaiyai kaaNbaan
kavi kaaLidasan avaL sakunthalai enbaan
nayagiyE enathu kaaviya ellai
narai vizhunthaalum nenjil thirai vizhavillai


Listen to his soulful self-reproach here

The kaviarasar dips his pen in angst and the lyrics cascade in poetic analogies. The mellisai mannar weaves the lines into a heart tugging Chakravagam, and whom else could he entrust the ballad to but TMS! The seasoned songster opens his account with lines redolent with contriteness, and MSV’s Shehnai responds like drops of tears shed hurriedly. Hark at the unobtrusive percussion that lends its reassuring support throughout the song- the hallmark of the master! The interludes mark the passage of time, and each one is remarkable in its arrangements. The song stores surprises till the very end…. A pulsating postlude lasting for more than a minute, ending with TMS reciting jathis with inimitable majesty…

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Yes, TMS was already past his prime then. Yet, I would rank this song as among his very best. I remember listening to it so often on radio in the late 70s, and recall an inexplicable sense of loss engulfing my childish thoughts…

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I'm youth, I'm joy, I'm a little bird that has broken out of the egg

- Sir James M. Barrie

Arun is a youth icon. Born and brought up in distant shores, he knows nothing of his father. He has become a famed pop singer, and his doting mother brings him to their native Madras. His Indian fans greet him with frenzy and he is invited to perform in his hometown. The hall is packed with his hysterical young fans, but his song is for a pretty girl who catches his eye in the crowd…and she is delirious with joy when he calls her to the stage…the carnival continues …

Listen to him serenade her in seductive style

The master rises valiantly to the occasion here too. He crafts a youthful western number filled with zest and summons SPB to do the rest. If ‘deivaththin thEreduthu’ needed the august sedateness that only TMS was capable of, for songs such as these that demanded spry ebullience, SPB was his master’s voice. The guitars, trumpets, drums and bongos add to the jazzy revelry and the young SPB croons with joyful abandon, punctuating his song with the impish mischief and nonchalant improvisations that made him the new star on the tfm horizon in the 70s… The genius of MSV comes to the fore with the unexpected jugulbundi towards the end, followed by the startling twist in the tail…SPB breaking into a rollicking ‘ennadi raakkamma!

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MSV is convalescing well after a bypass surgery. Let us wish the mellisai mannar a long life filled with good health and cheer!

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Chandru noted the lyrics of ‘my song is for you’ here:

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Postby Ramesh.P » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:09 pm

saravanan

kaRpanaikku mEni thandhu..kaal salangai pOttu vittEn
kaal salangai pOna idam ..kadavuLukkum thOndRavillai…
deivaththin thEreduthu dEviyai thEdu


Other singers would have fainted . TMS at his best nayagiyE enathu kaaviya ellai

I dont think any other MD used shenoy more effectively than MSV(in terms of variety whether it is duet or soogam). we have ahuge list in other site.

Best composistion/best singing/best lyrics. I could not recollect the scene .

Thanks saravanan.

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Postby vengayam » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:25 pm

Saravanan,
Only a couple of days ago I was mumbling " Sivagami aada vandhaal Natarajan enna seivaan" maybe after seeing the name Natarajan in your missive! What do I find today.. Paatum Bharathamum.! :D

While Karpannaikku meni thanthu deserves every bit of praise it got and more I am not sure about "My song". As a 12 year old then I did sing the song then. But that was for Sripriya :wink:

IVKSTS 2 used to feature both Karpannaikku and Sivagami quite often.
I remember Sivaji's dialogue to JJ after watching her performance all by himself. "Nee ippadi ippadinnu kannai uruti kaiyai aatinee athu nalla irunthathu" etc .The sivagami song as I remember is the dance competition wherin S humbles JJ by completing a drawing of an elephant complete with eyeball.Sivaji's turn as a businessman learning dance for the sake of love was very believable- the body double for this scene notwithstanding !!
JJ was always good in roles that called for a bit of arrogance- hences she was good upto that point.
KK and MSV have really belted out a marvellous album.
The only bad thing about the movie was it came immediately in the wake of Perunthalaivar's demise on Oct 2 1975. Hence the debacle.
Paatum barthamum deserved much better.
This one is for you Saravanan- to reinforce that you are right every time. I will talk about things other than the SOTD.

The other gem is the simple duet " Manthorana veethiyil". Sivaji's feel for the lyrics is unmatched by any other actor. At the culmination of this song in the middle of Kodai lake S & JJ defy Archimedes principle to obey one of the ten commandments" Thou shall procreate" :?: :!:
I remember this scene vividly as the matter was subject to much animated discussion among our class elders( repeaters - in the age of detention there were more than a couple of 16 year olds in II Form. The bone of contention was whether it is possible for such an activity in the close confines of a row boat for two without taking a dip. The consensus was that it is possible but not probable!!We used to listen in with what I assumed then was nonchalance but what I nowknow would have been with open mouths!
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Postby Da Vinci » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:37 am

Wow, Saravanan, two lovely songs of entirely different styles. It was nice to hear them both after a long time. Ha ha, what an ending to the SPB song : adi ennadi raakamma... :) A rollicking song.

Isn't this the movie in which the hero and the heroine contest each other and they both draw a picture of elephant with their feet dipped in paint while they dance, and the hero wins because he is so precise to draw even the eye of the elephant while the heroine is unable to ? :) Shivaji Ganeshan dancing (that too classical dance) must be a nightmare, but I would love to see it :)
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Postby suri » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:38 am

Superb Saravanan! What a song! I think MSV used Agirbhairav(Bibare Rama rasam-Balamurali) in this song. V-R already used the same raga for Ullathil nalla ullam in Karnan. Wonderfully sung by TMS. Only Kavignar could write like this. thanks for great pick

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Postby Udhaya » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:36 am

nayagiyE enathu kaaviya ellai
narai vizhunthaalum nenjil thirai vizhavillai

That's a far cry from yearning to drink a lover's bath water. And to think Paattum Barathamum was not lauded as a great soundtrack when it came out...adhu oru kaalam, hmm. When I hear 'deivaththin...', I get all nostalgic and dare to think...maybe not just music, voices, and lyrics! Maybe even emotions were more elegant back then, but then I hear, "My Song is for you", and the truth comes crashing down on me...there have always been gems and howlers in the same period. Often, like the SOTD, in the same soundtrack.

Saravanaa,
Besides all the obvious pleasures you provide, you make me realize artists who didn't get my due attention. This P. Madhavan was an also ran, I had thought all along. But this venture is clearly not a commercially ambitious one. This and the surprisingly bold "Shankar, Salim, Simon" make me wonder about this guy.
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Postby corley » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:11 am

Saravanan,

I am speechless and overjoyed. Deivathin peraduthu is a song that has always amazed me, and I never fail to have the same intense feeling of contentment every time I hear. And, believe me, I have been repeatedly listening to this song in the past few weeks.

Suri, I think it is chakravaham, and so is Ullathil nalla ullam.

Looking forward to more and more from your archive, and, of course, your honey dripping pen.

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Postby OISG » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:11 pm

What a majestic one from the KKD-TMS-MSV combo.An all time great song. Chakravaham again and I feel more than “uLLathil nalla uLLam” this song should have inspired Rehman for his “Vidu Kathaya” another brilliant composition in Chakravaham. Some older scripts call this raga “vedhavahini” instead of “vegavahini”. It has a philosophical dimension in its structure.

SPB dazzles and his Ennadi Rakkamma is out of the world!

The movie was indeed a flop. But years later I watched this one and “anbe aaruyirE” (also a 1975 release) and I found both the movies way ahead of many 80s movies. Udhaya, the songs were super hits when the movie was released and were well received. Gopikrishna was sivaji’s double in the Climax dance. In the elderly role Sivaji gave a great performance. I remember this song sequence even today.

But as Arun, “the POP icon” with a “popping belly” and without moustache he looked somewhere between todays Elton John and yesterdays Calcutta Viswanathan.

JJ was superb. (JJ fans association Life-time president!) :wink:

Balamurugan dialogues were childish even at that time “Enakku indha kalyanthila sammadham illE” with a pronounced pause “appadeenu sollamaaten”. Uh! R.Devarajan? of the Devaraj-Mohan duo?

P.Madhavan survived on some of the best scripts of 70s. “Karayai thodhadha alaigal” was his last movie with his son “Arun”in the lead?

Vengayam, now you must be dreaming in cinemascope as I saw Sripriya recently in a SunTV serial. But ,true, she was a doll in PP. Apart from Saravanan’s writeup yours laden with possibilities and probabilities was enjoyable as well. But “maan thoraNa” paatiRkku piRagu JJ “muzhugamal “irundhadhil aacharyam illai! :lol:

ManthoraNa veedhyil also had some great lyrics.”kanniyai neeraata gangayin seetRam”

BTW Saravanan, I suddenly feel Hindu’s Malathy Rengarajan must be reading your posts. It is just a guess after reading her review of “Pachai Kili Muthu charam”. Now looking for Byron’s collections……
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Postby Saravanan » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:39 pm

Thanks for all the responses!

P.Ramesh, great to see you back! Yes, it is impossible to think of any other singer who could lend even a small portion of the melancholic majesty that TMS imparts to the song. And to think that this singer was never considered worthy of a National Award :(

Vengayam and Da Vinci, you are right about the ‘sivakami aada vandhaaL’ sequence. Vengayam, greatly enjoyed your ‘Probability Theory’ and OISG’s cheeky interpretation as well :D

Suri/Corley, I am lost when it comes to classical music, but is ‘aahir bhairav’ the Hindustani equivalent of Chakravagam? Other songs by TMS in this scale seem to be ‘pichchaaNdi thannai kaNdu pichchai idungaL’ and ‘sandhEga kOdu adhu sandhOsha kEdu’.

Udhaya, would you believe that P.Madhavan resigned from a lucrative job in State Bank of India to pursue his passion for cinema? Not finding any openings, he worked as a tuition teacher for director T.R.Raghunath’s kids and gradually persuaded Raghunath to take him as an assistant. Sridhar was impressed with Madhavan when ‘yaar paiyan’ was being made and Madhavan was part of Sridhar’s team during the exciting 1959-1962 period. His first movie as director was the offbeat ‘maNiyOsai’ (1963). With ‘annai illam’ (1963), Madhavan became a staunch Sivaji loyalist, straying to direct a single MGR movie- ‘deivathaai’ (1964).

Over the years, Madhavan directed many memorable Sivaji starrers (neela vaanam, raman eththanai ramanadi, vietnam veedu, gnana oLi, pattikkada pattaNama, thanga pathakkam, paattum bharathamum….). Of course, like Bhimsingh, in all his movies Madhavan was content with merely calling the shots, he did not venture into script-writing at all. He was also part of the K.R.Vijaya bandwagon and directed many movies for her (sabatham, kaNNe papa, kasturi vijayam..) Madhavan’s work came for critical acclaim in ‘kuzhanthaikkaga’ (1968).

He formed a production company called ‘Arun Prasad Movies’ named after his sons. Devaraj-Mohan were his assistants in the early 70s, and madhavan made them direct his ‘poNNukku thanga manasu’ in which Vijayakumar made his debut. Sripriya was another Madhavan discovery- she made her debut in his murugan kaattiya vazhi. Madhavan had become acquainted with Ilaiyaraja when GKV composed music for his sabatham, poNNukku thanga manasu and murugan kaattiya vazhi. And whne Ilaiyaraja started working as an independent music composer, Madhavan was among the first to approach him for his ‘paalootti vaLartha kiLi’. Madhavan worked with Rajnikant in ‘shankar salim simon’ and ‘en kELvikku enna bathil’.

He made his son Arun the hero in ‘karaiyai thodaatha alaigaL’ (1985), but the movie was a failure. He later directed ‘chinna kuyil paaduthu’ (1987) starring Sivakumar, Bhagyaraj and Ambika, but the movie came and went unnoticed, some good IR songs notwithstanding. I guess the last movie directed by Madhavan was probably ‘agni paarvai’ (1992), starring S.Thirunavukkarasu opposite Saranya!

Madhavan won the State Government award for Best Director for his work in ‘nilavE nee saatchi’ (1970). The same year, he was also honoured with the ‘kalaimaamaNi’ Award. His ‘raman ethathani ramanadi’ bagged the National Award for the Best Regional Film. Chief Minister Jayalalitha had appointed Madhavan as the first Chairman and Managing Director of the MGR Film City and State Film Development Corporation. Madhavan passed away on December 16th 2003.

OISG, am till laughing at your description of the ‘pop’ icon :lol:
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Postby vengayam » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:23 pm

Saravanan,
A good ready reckoner on P Madhavan.
One or two stray thoughts on P Madhavan. Didn't he also make Naan naaneethaan - under his banner. The movie which contained SPB's haunting " Vanna villinull "? who was the hero? was it Latha's brother or the guy who was paired with Subashini in Sridhar's Azhage unnai aarathanai seigiren?

Speaking of Sridhar I remember that P Madhavan made a cameo appearance in " Policekaran Magal" as a doctor. I am sure of this one as it was pointed out by my sister. How she could recognise him was beyond me. (Probably Bommai and Pesum Padam the magazines) Did he make any other appearance?

Which brings me to" Nee Irunthal innerathile" from " Nilave nee Satchi"
Pls feature it soon in SOTD.
Also one other thought whenever I think of PM AC Thirulogachander also springs to mind. Both essentially made movies with Sivaji occassionally straying into a movie with MGR( Deiva thai for P Madhavan- which incidentally had a youngster as its screenplay -dialogue writer KB! . Anbe vaa for ACT)
Both venture into production . Arun Prasad vs Cine Barath.
Both were complacent to let Sivaji do the acting and not stretch him with anything good. every time I see Amitabh based movies hitting the screen I wince at the oppurtunities missed. kaiyil vennaiyai vaithukkondu neikku alaintha kathai thaan Tamil cinema in 80s and 90s.
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Postby suri » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:01 am

Yes Saravanan, Chakravagam is equivallent to Hindustani Agirbhairav.Do u know Gangai Amaran! also scored a chakravagam(I forgot the film's name, may be Thenir?) Poluthe ezha malai poluthe-sung by Yesudoss.

I.R's Nee pathi nan pathi(Keladi kanmani) is vv popular

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Postby Saravanan » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:50 am

Vengayam, I did not want to list all the movies of P.Madhavan as it would have become a long(er) recital :D

Anyways, since you asked here are some more:

In 1979, under the banner 'Ramya Movies' Sethumadhavan produced the Tamil remake of K.Viswanath's 'seethamalakshmi'; titled 'ENippadigaL', it was directed by P.Madhavan. Sethumadhavan then produced 'naan naanEthaan' (1980/ Ramya Chitra), which was again directed by P.Madhavan. Rajkumar, Rajesh, Vadivukkarasi and Vanithasri were the actors.

P.Madhavan also produced and directed 'veetukku veedu vaasappadi' (1979/ Arun Prasad Movies/(Vijayakumar,Rati,Suman,Shobha) which the Tamil remake of 'intinti ramayanam' and directed 'kuruvikkoodu' (1980/ Manimekalai Pictures/Sudhakar, Saritha). Hitler Umanath (1982/ PVT Productions) was probably the last time Madhavan worked with Sivaji. He worked with Vijayakant in 'saththiyam neeyE' (1984/ Kanmani Creations) in which his son Arun first appeared in a cameo.

Though most of P.Madhavan's movies had music by MSV, he has also worked with KVM, GKV, Ilaiyaraja, Rajan-Nagendra, Shankar-Ganesh and Chandrabose.

Was watching the birthday celebrations on Jaya TV :)

Suri, thanks for the clarification! 'unadhE iLa maalai pozhuthu' was featured as SOTD here:

http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/332.html

I have seen the movie on TV since then. The name 'thEneer' was changed to 'oomai janagaL', and the movie seems to have been released in 1984 under the banner 'Kavityuga Creations'.
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Postby RC » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:30 am

Saravanan,

Is Arun, Arunpandiyan? I ask this because I have seen Sathiyam neeye and vaguely remember seeing Arun Pandiyan in that movie.

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Postby tvsankar » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:49 am

Dear Saravanan,
Thanks for rare gems.Karpanaiku meni thandhu - sogamana indha tune nalayae - indha padalai ketamal vittuviduven.Indha padalin sogathinalyae padam parka vendam enru thonriyadhu.

MY song is for you - SPB in ragalaikayana kuralukaga asaiyaga ketta padal... MSV in nice compositions..

Once again thank you Saravanan.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.
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Postby Nagarajan » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:31 pm

Dear Mr Saravanan,
Has P Madhavan directed any Hindi movies? I saw the remakes of Raman Eththanai Ramanadi and Gna Oli in Hindi, featuring Sanjeev Kumar, but do not know who are the directors.

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Postby Saravanan » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:22 am

Usha Sankar, glad you enjoyed the song!

RC, I have not seen 'saththiyam neeyE'. Perhaps Arun Pandian was also part of the cast. The 'Arun' I referred to is P.Madhavan's son.

Nagarajan, P.Madhavan did remake some his movies in Hindi like 'dil ka raja' (enga oor Raja), 'aansu aur muskaan' (kaNNE papa) and 'ram tErE kitnE naam' (raman eththanai ramanadi). However, he did not remake 'gyana oLi' in Hindi. the Hindi version of 'gyana oLi' called devtaa was directed by veteran S.Ramanathan.
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re: SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

Postby SugeeK » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:32 am

Saravanan,

Many, many thanks. Not in the class of 'ninaiththu paarkkirEn' of course (intha pAttai antha pAttunnu ninaiththu kondirunthEn), but still it is a wonderful song ! And the nostalgic value is of course absolutely immeasurable.

I listened to the song the very day you posted, and have been thudichufying to thank you, but had no log-in.

Namma Cheenu-Balaji join paNNa vidavE mAttAr pOla. kadantha pala mAthangaLaga kai-vasam uLLa ellA email-aiyum vaiththu pathivu ceiythu vittEn. umhum. bathilE illa. innaikku puchchA 2 email register paNNi, unakkAchu enakkAchu--nu try paNNInEn. Cheenu-vukku nalla mood pOla, green signal koduththuttAr.

OK, ippo antha LRE threadukku pOgANum. ennOda favourite singer-a-paththi discussion nadakkuthu :-)
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re: SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

Postby Nagarajan » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:14 am

Dear Mr Saravanan,
Thanks for the information.

Somebody told that 'Thanga-p-padhakkam' was made in Hindi and
Srikanth role was played by Amitabh.
Is the Hindi version directed by P Madhavan?

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re: SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

Postby SugeeK » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:22 am

Nagarajan,

Thanga-pathakkam remake in Hindi, Shakti, was one of the most hyped releases of that decade - touted at the meeting of the two thespians of Hindi Cinema, namely Dilip Kumar and Amitabh Bachchan. Sivaji-Dilip, KRV-Rakhee, Srikanth- Amitabh, Pramila-Smita Patil. Directed by Ramesh Sippy of Sholay fame. While in Tamil they showed Srikanth simply as a bad apple, who just turned out wrong, in Hindi they could not do the same with Amitabh playing the role. So some child-hood incident where little son misunderstands father's love for him is created to set the stage for a child growing up harbouring much bitterness which turns him into a bad apple. Otherwise pretty much the same kathai.
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re: SOTD #851: Two Songs from paattum bharathamum

Postby Saravanan » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:54 pm

Sugrutha, glad you enjoyed the song :)
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